Fwd: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Response to Jean-Pierre Pinet on document

[Meryem Marzouki <marzouki@ras.eu.org>]

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> De: "Jean-Pierre Pinet" <jeanpierre.pinet@atd-quartmonde.org>
> Date: Ven 11 juil 2003  14:16:26 Europe/Paris
> À: "Sally Burch - ALAI" <sburch@alainet.org>, <Plenary@wsis-cs.org>
> Objet: [WSIS CS-Plenary] RE: Response to Jean-Pierre Pinet on document
> Répondre à: plenary@wsis-cs.org
>
> Hello,
> Thanks for your reaction. I have had a talk with my collegues. We 
> agree with
> your remarks and we propose to change :
>
> 1.
>> the WSIS Declaration should therefore affirm that Article 19 of the
> Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) must be not only adhered 
> to but
> also actively enforced
>
> to
>
> "the WSIS Declaration should therefore NOT ONLY REAFFIRM Article 19 of 
> the
> Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), but commit to its active
> enforcement."
>
> 2.
>
>> "Development cooperation in the area of sustainable development should
> reaffirm the principle of solidarity between richer and poorer areas 
> of the
> world."
>
> to
>
> Sustainable democratic development should include the poorest (in the 
> North
> and the South) in the development process and take account of their
> knowledge to eradicate poverty"
>
> [See: http://www.atd-quartmonde.org/intern/docu_intern/johoctbEn.pdf ]
>
> 3.
>
>> The Declaration should include, as a principle and theme, the 
>> maintenance
> and growth of the commonwealth of human knowledge as a means of 
> reducing
> global inequality and of providing the conditions for intellectual
> creativity, sustainable development and respect for human rights.
>
> and add just after:
>
> "People living in extreme poverty must be pivotal in the dialogue 
> between
> all parties, contribuing their experience and knowledge."
>
> [see: 
> http://www.atd-quartmonde.org/intern/wsis/atd_smsi-contrib_en.pdf ]
>
>
> There are also other points we cannot agree but the time is too short 
> to
> react on this.
> thanks
> Jean-Pierre Pinet
> ATD Fourth World Movement.
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Sally Burch - ALAI [mailto:sburch@alainet.org]
> Envoyé : vendredi 11 juillet 2003 03:04
> À : Plenary@wsis-cs.org
> Cc : Jean-Pierre Pinet
> Objet : Response to Jean-Pierre Pinet on document
>
>
> In reply to Jean-Pierre Pinet
>
> Thanks for commenting on the text.  Obviously in a text that is
> trying to be as short as possible some things are not developed as
> fully as they might be; we could only underline a few key issues
> that are not in the draft documents, or are inadequately expressed.
>
>
>> - Information Society must not only respect article 19 of Human 
>> >Rights
> Declaration but the whole Declaration. Not only principles >but all the
> actions must be in this cadre. When you take only one >article, the 
> poorest
> are always the looser.
>
>> see: "An information and communication society that has people >and 
>> human
> needs at its centre implies underlining the importance >of human rights
> standards as the core set of principles guiding its >development"
>
> You are right, of course.  But the first article of the WSIS draft
> declaration already refers to the UDHR and article 10 says:
>
> "The essential requirements for development of an equitable
> information society include: The respect for all internationally
> recognized human rights and fundamental freedoms.  Notably the
> right to freedom of opinion and expression, including the right to
> hold opinions without interference and seek to receive and impart
> information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers
> in accordance with article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human
> Rights and to unhindered access by individuals to communication
> and media information sources".
>
> The phrase in our priorities document was taken, precisely, from
> the Human Rights caucus document, refering to the fat that it in
> not sufficient to be "in accordance with article 19...", but to insist
> that we need to go further and ensure the conditions for freedom of
> information and expression to be truly in force.
>
> May be to make this clearer we could change the phrase to:
>
> "the WSIS Declaration should therefore NOT ONLY REAFFIRM
> Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR),
> but commit to its active enforcement."
>
>> - It is a little simple to just reafirm the solidarity between richer
>> and poorer areas of the world (why not between the rich and the
>> poor ?). But poorest people want now acts. With Internet Society,
>> we have now more skills to fight poverty. My organisation think
>> that I.S. have to take real commitments to be credible to the
>> eyes of the poorest.
>
>> "Development cooperation in the area of sustainable development
>> should reaffirm the principle of solidarity between richer and
>> poorer areas of the world."
>
> Yes, but the point of including this is an allusion to the implicit
> understanding among most Northern governments that
> "development" is now a taboo word in the UN (because it implies
> transferring public resources from North to South); and that it is
> only acceptable to talk about "multistakeholder agreements" (ie.
> The private sector puts up the money for development initiatives,
> and expects to make a profit out of it).  If you can suggest a clearer
> way of stating this then please suggest it.  Your point is also
> important but addresses a different issue and might dilute this idea.
>
>> - we agree to this :"The Declaration should include, as a principle
>> and theme, the maintenance and growth of the commonwealth of
>> human knowledge as a means of reducing global inequality and of
>> providing the conditions for intellectual creativity, sustainable
>> development and respect for human rights" but sharing knowledge
>> is a commitment, specialy when you will share it with the poorest
>> AND receive from them their own knowledge.
>
> Can you suggest specific language to include this idea?
>
> Sally Burch
>
>
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